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jpmcbride


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I'll take credit for the harp riff - but the gutar and vocal are my the other half of the duo - Stan.

That song was the reason I originally learned 3rd position. I just couldn't make it work in 2nd and I had read in Jon's Rock-n-Blues book about 3rd position for minor keys.

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Tom B


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VERY COOL riff you got going there MR Mcbride. good guitar and singing. will try those riffs.

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If you go to my website at www.bottle-o-blues.com and click on the SOUND FILES link you'll find a sound file for All Along the Watchtower. The song is in Am and I use a G harp in 3rd position. Its a good play-along for learning 3rd. If you play guitar the chords for the main part are Am-G-F-G. The intro is similar but I don't know exactly how to play it. If you want to play along, the first harp part goes like this...

-5 5 -4 4 -4

-5 5 -4 -5 -6 6 -6

6 -5 -4 4 -4

-5 5 -4 4 -4

The very last draw note -4 above is actually a 1-4 draw octave -(1,4).


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Just for screwin around I like a 4d, 5d,6, and wail on the 6d, back to 6,5d, and end it on 4d and drag it out.

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THANKS Fssharp those riffs are a good place to get started .you guys got any more

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Jon does have some stuff in his newsletter (maybe about a year ago) on simple 3rd pos riffs - good stuff. Instead of looking that up (and possibly Jon would rather present it himself or prefer you buy a book or CD) I pass along a little 3rd pos riff building exercise. Useful for jamming over minor, slow blues, but really it's just to get you comfy before branching out. I like to warm up with this string of riffs (#+ = blow, # alone = draw) - basically building up a blues scale.

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4 5 4
4 5 6+ 6 6+ 5 4
4 5 6+ 6 7+ 6 6+ 5 4 5 4
4 5 6+ 6 7+ 8 7+ 6 6+ 5 4 (or 4 5 6+ 6 7+ 8 7+ 6 5 5+ 4)

just stay away from that 7 (draw) and you'll be fine. Noodle around with these holes and you'll find a million riffs for 3rd pos. The above pattern can be extended by adding the 9 and then 9+ (just playing that now and it started to sound like the theme to M*A*S*H !)

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hi there Frankie.thanks for info.i've got most of Jon's books,Robert Johnson,gospel plow etc.and the Rock and Blue.most all of my question have been answered thru these,but like i said i still have trouble coming up with filler riff some times.i have played melodies all my life.started learning blues on guitar yrs. ago (still not a pro by any means yet,mostly blues rock)but had never noticed harp till i went back and listen too Muddy Waters CD HARD AGAIN,then i was hooked .found out it was alittle harder to play than i though lol, but having a great time teaching my self.this forum has always been a great help .anyway thanks for your reply and keep playing those BLUES Tom B.

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Tom B wrote:

Dutch, thank you guys for your answers. like you i vist every day.i've never though much about the new format. i kind of like it with all the differnt threads.i just wonder were everyone had went to. it just seem like there use to be more activity here. maybe its like you said there's so many subjects to choose from,but i still vist every day any way. HEY JON does your new book Bluesifty your Melody have filler riffs in the third position.im still have a little trouble at times coming up with riffs in bettween the words of a song. i may be intrested in getting your new book.thanks ahead of time for reply. Tom B

Hi Tom

Bluesify does not go into riffs very much. It pretty well concentrates on the melody lines with a bit of alternate phrasings. Jon teaches a lot of riffs, including fills, in other places but here he wants you to learn the melody lines then create your own riffs and fills based on that knowledge. Have you gone through Rockin the Folk yet? He shows you how to do it in that one.

Glad you started this thread. I was lamenting to Jon via email that there was not much activity here. I'm wondering if a lot of people like to read but not many can be bothered to post. If so, then too bad.

I think of this forum as a virtual club.

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Dutch, thank you guys for your answers. like you i vist every day.i've never though much about the new format. i kind of like it with all the differnt threads.i just wonder were everyone had went to. it just seem like there use to be more activity here. maybe its like you said there's so many subjects to choose from,but i still vist every day any way. HEY JON does your new book Bluesifty your Melody have filler riffs in the third position.im still have a little trouble at times coming up with riffs in bettween the words of a song. i may be intrested in getting your new book.thanks ahead of time for reply. Tom B

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I guess the new format makes it difficult to decide sometimes where to put a certain question or remark, in some cases it fits in more than one category or it really doesn't fit in any.
Having a lot of categories to choose from can be helpful but also troublesome, so perhaps reducing to lets say : General Questions, Harp Equiptment, Songs & Tabs and Harp Instruction (aka Jon's Teaching Materials) would make it easier to overlook and less "intimidating".
And perhaps not a big reason (just cosmetically) is that if there are only 4 or 5 categories and only one or two new posts, it still looks kind of "populated", but with two dozen categories and only one or two new posts, it gives the impression that the site is hardly used and you don't want to do that.
I know, it not the amount of information but the quality of information, but I still makes the forum look like a lonely place.

I'm pretty sure that having less options, will make it easier for people to leave, check and delve up old messages and this in turn will increase traffic, which will result in more exchange of ideas and information, the neccesary ingredients for a great forum.
The "Harp Instruction" category could have sub-categories that define all of Jons products and perhaps a "general" category.....

Just my 2 cents..... anyway, whatever the format, I'll still be dropping by everyday.


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Good question Tom. Like you this was always my first stop on harp forums and since Jon went to the new format I find myself skipping off somewhere else. I don't know why because the new format really seperates and broadens topics.

The only answer I can think of is this new format requires me to surf for whats up, then choose, rather than just respond. It's that surfing and checking out the titles that for some reason makes me pass bye. It takes effort on my part to use this new format. I wonder if others have the same experience? Maybe that is why you asked the same question that I have been pondering.

Well I guess I'm lazy and will have to change or miss out on good information. It takes more effort to use this forum than others so for me its put up or shut up. Sort of like Jon's advice on learning to play.
Bob


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sorry about the misspelling .doesyour new book have filler riff in the third position songs.

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those are some cool songs.will have to try watchtower.heyJon dose your new have filler riff in these third position songs.Tom

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How about All Along the Watchtower? Its usually played in Am - sounds great in 3rd position on a G harp. Play a few riffs at the intro and between each verse, then at the end ... like Dylan does, only play it much cleaner than he did :-) Have you listened to it lately? Man was that some squeaky harp playing - he had to be doing it on purpose!

Jim


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My book Bluesify Your Melody has a whole bunch of songs presented in 3rd position.

For instance, Scarborough Faire, Summertime, In the Pines, Motherlerss Child, This
Train I Ride On are each notated and played.

Mother;ess Child is on U-Tube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0WOj8vwx58

Motherless Child

Another personal favorite is "It Ain't Necessarily So". Jon


-- Edited by Jon at 19:03, 2006-11-20

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One of my favorites is "Wayfaring Stranger", Dm on my lowC Bushman. Been busy with family matters lately and I do read this each day.

Rudene

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off the top of my head, in third, i do:
corinna corinna
st. james infirmary
shake, rattle and roll
23 hours too long

there are plenty of others, some originals we have written.

the great thing about having third position is, i can use it or choose second or even first on a given song. this keeps songas fresh for me, and i think for an audience.

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This use to be the most active site on my list. where is everyone. i'll start a new thread . third postion songs .like Stairway to Heaven,anyone do this one.Iknow this really isn't a blues song but it's cool to do with a friend on guitar.what other songs in third do you guys do.

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